US/EST: 19 Mar 2019 15:06

Player Dispute - tonynator113, xxxkoenigxxx, killerboy, alluszutony & pongaupoker (locked)

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Harp221122
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4 years ago

http://www.chipmeup.com/player/tonynator113

Received pm about this event that he has told investors that he wasnt going to play event or pay back investors:

http://www.chipmeup.com/event/141973/tonynator1...

After review of account, would like the relationship with these accounts explained:

http://www.chipmeup.com/player/xxxkoenigxxx
http://www.chipmeup.com/player/killerboy
http://www.chipmeup.com/player/alleszutony
http://www.chipmeup.com/player/pongaupoker

xxxkoenigxxx
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4 years ago

Bin mit dem Handy online und werde im meiner Landessprache mal antworten. Ich kenne den Name Killer. … gar nicht und pongaupoker ist ein freund von mir den ich zu chipmeup geworben habe das selbe ist auch für alleszutony das ist mein Bruder den ich auch zu chipmeup gebracht habe bzw geworben aber er hat einen neuen Namen bei ihnen reg mit tonynator113 und es ist nicht meine Aufgabe zu sorgen das es seinen anderen Namen oder Account löscht ich habe nur meinen Namen und keinen andere ich hatte weder Probleme mit chipmeup User bzw schlechte bewertet. Klären sie die Angelegenheit mit tonynator113 und nicht mit mir. Ich werde auch keine Leute mehr werben falls mein Account wieder aktiviert ist. Als Bitte aktivieren Sie meinen Account wieder. Ich habe auch keine Lust hier ewig darüber zu diskutieren. Es gibt nur zwei Möglichkeiten entweder mein Account wird aktiviert oder nicht dann verlasse ich halt chipmeup was ich sehr schade finden würde. LG xxxkoenigxxx

xxxkoenigxxx
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4 years ago

Hab ich vergessen . Habe mir die Account von alleszutony und Killer. .mal angesehen da sind ja so gut wie keine Aktivitäten und pongaupoker kauft auch nur selten Anteile. LG xxxkoenigxxx

deadlyseal
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4 years ago

translation:i dont know the name killerboy at all and pongaupoker is a friend who i brought to chipmeup ,same as my brother alleszutony, who i also brought to chipmeup.he uses an other name now tho,tonynator113.its not my responcebilty to make him delete his other names or accounts.i use only my own name and i never had any prblems or issues with any one or i bad tells /comments here.solve issues or problems with tonynator himselfand not with me. i ferther wonr bring any new people here to chipmeup after my account is reactivated. so please activate my account again.i dont want to discus this everytime again about this. there is 2 options for this : my account gets reactivated or i just leave chipmeup, what would be a dissapointment for me. greeats koenig

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deadlyseal
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4 years ago

translation:i have looked into the accounts from killerboy and alleszutony and it looks like there is almost no activity with those accounts and pongaupoker very rare buys a few shares.

deadlyseal
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4 years ago

koenig i hope you can see that itsin your intrest also if chipmeup looks into accounts that aeems suspicious to them.
to ensure the site stays as safe as posseble for buyers and sellers they have to look into these accounts and if they think its better to restrict some accounts till things are cleared they will do so.
why didnt you send harp a mail and explain this to him in privat and work with him to solve this.ofcourse we want lots of buyers and sellers here,but we all also want a safe environment to buy and sell shares.

Harp221122
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4 years ago

So here is the problem we have (i am just going to number and try and keep simple in english because it looks like not native language):

1. Tony owes $7
2. You have said above that he is your brother.
3. You share numerous IP matches meaning you either live together or spend alot of time on CMU from the same IP
4. Tony has a number of ip matches with killerboy, who happens to have the stars name xkoenigx, which is odd that you dont know them (and you use xkoenigx on titan and variations on all sites
5. The ip matches between tony and killerboy are within minutes of each other
6. The ip matches between you, tony and pongaupoker are again within minutes of each other
7. Tony also has xkoenigx listed on his account as a username on a site

So i think you can see why these questions have come up when your brother has stole $7 of investors money.

We simply cannot allow family members, who share definite ip matches to continue to sell events, etc while money is owed.

Can you explain why tony and killerboy have your pokername as their poker names?

My suggestion to start is to talk to your brother and get him to return the $7, or if its within your capacity, return the $7 yourself and have your brother owe you. Then we can go from there

xxxkoenigxxx
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4 years ago

hi I’ve sent mail to contact about hannyug and tried to let him also get the money for tonynator112 but after tel. tonynator113 he wants to do with himself. I have already sent 2 times for him money and never get back.
For IP I loge me on ChipMeUp with cell phone and my pc. My brother is also öffters gewessen to visit and has logged in with my pc did not even know that it is not allowed einzulogen with the same ip. what they propose to clean the thing can. Had also sent mail times if it is to advertise it a problem and it was answered in the negative. And why he names pokeracount with xkoenigx reg I do not know. I have my name in the poker room with x if the name is not more free time and almost everywhere koenig koenig and.

so now my question how we can rectify the situation.

I am with no user ChipMeUp of money owed ??or late payment made
lg
xxxkoenigxxx

deadlyseal
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4 years ago

koenig if you cant write good enough english you can put it here in german and maybe some one can translate it for you. might give a better comunication.
one thing i am curious about is also the ip adress.. what if you have 2 or more people use the same ip adress..like brothers or family and they are on cmu aswell,is this a problem??

xxxkoenigxxx
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4 years ago

hi I’m going to leave ChipMeUp.
have storrniert all events and the event
http://www.chipmeup.com/event/141557/xxxkoenigx...
    I have all the shares returned and not paid because it was a free for all except share hannyug they can share the refund from the event http://www.chipmeup.com/event/140559/hannyug-po... what has not yet been paid

You can also profit in the event of monetary event of
http://www.chipmeup.com/event/143351/
http://www.chipmeup.com/event/141276/
http://www.chipmeup.com/event/143361/
reserve.
Please delete my account
wish all of user ChipMeUp much success
lg xxxkoenigxxx

Harp221122
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4 years ago

Using the same ip address is not always a problem, but when someone on that ip steals money, it certainly is. We have had these cases in the past, but we also have a few family member instances with no problems and also some members that have shared ip’s on occasion as friends who play together from time to time at the same place

It is unfortunate that your brother has put you in this position to be restricted, but given the information above with ips linking a number of accounts, and usernames across multiple accounts being the same, we simply cannot let any of these accounts continue until the funds are paid back.

As i said before, get your brother to come back and answer these questions/pay his debts is the starting point

Raymond1976
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4 years ago

Harp ?

what u do with this part ?
I’m wondering if u have read this or going to take action on it.

You can also profit in the event of monetary event of
http://www.chipmeup.com/event/143351/
http://www.chipmeup.com/event/141276/
http://www.chipmeup.com/event/143361/
reserve.
Please delete my account
wish all of user ChipMeUp much success
lg xxxkoenigxxx

Cheers,

Raymond

P.S
Sorry to hear koenig is leaving cmu.

Harp221122
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4 years ago

If he doesnt want his shares in those events, he needs to contact the seller directly as its between him and you

If he does, and they are paid for, then it is fine to leave them

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4 years ago

ok clear thanks

xxxkoenigxxx
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4 years ago

hello
Have logged me after a long time at times ChipMeUp.
So now my decision.
I’m not willing to pay to fix problems of tonynator respectively.
Admin they can with my account do what you want (delete or Beschänkt)
I wish all ChipMeUp usern yet much success in their poker game.
lg xxxkoenigxxx

Hallo
Habe mich nach längerer zeit mal bei chipmeup eingelogt.
So nun meine entscheidung.
Ich bin nicht bereit die probleme von tonynator zu regeln bzw zu bezahlen.
Admin sie konnen mit meinem Account machen was Sie wollen ( löschen oder Beschänkt )
Ich wünsche allen chipmeup usern dennoch viel erfolg in ihren Pokerspiel.
lg xxxkoenigxxx

chakwaina
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4 years ago

kleines kind

hannyug
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4 years ago

Now that Koenig has posted as above, I can summarise on my part as follows.

For this event (created and closed by tonynator),,,,,

https://www.chipmeup.com/event/141973/tonynator...

I had paid tonynator $5.60 via pokerstars. He postponed the event several times, then, after several requests for a refund, he let the event run, until finally closing it with zero return without having played it.

For this event (created and cancelled by xxxkoenigxxx),,,,,

https://www.chipmeup.com/event/141557/xxxkoenig...

I sent koenig $10.00 via pokerstars, after which he cancelled the event and has not yet refunded me.

For this event (created and still running by me),,,,,

https://www.chipmeup.com/event/141053/hannyug-p...

tonynator has purchased shares with par value $4.32 and event still running.

For this event (created and still running by me for ugotblufd smaller shares),,,,,

https://www.chipmeup.com/event/140559/hannyug-p...

Koenig has purchased shares with a par value of $15.90 and pending a refund value of $15.14 from ugotblufd

Harp can add all these to the equations above. If any queries, please pm me or post here.

hannyug
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4 years ago

I have received $20 from Koenig via stars with a pm here saying that this should cover for him and tony

I calculate as follows

$5.60 for me for tonynator event
$10.00 for me for koenig event
$1.40 for dave for tonynator event
$3.00 to be returned back to Koenig excess payment.

This would mean I would still owe tonynator and Koenig when my running events are closed.

Harp, please confirm if ok and I allocate as above.

Harp221122
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4 years ago

will try and review this tongiht

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4 years ago

Yes your numbers appear to be fine. Any $$ owed to either of them from your running event can be paid directly to them when complete

Please confirm when you have returned any access koenig sent you



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hannyug
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4 years ago

$3.00 returned to Koenig
$1.40 sent to dave
$15.60 kept by me

I can confirm I am not owed anything by Koenig or tonynator13

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4 years ago

ty got mine

xxxkoenigxxx
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4 years ago

Hello everyone, I have everything paid for tony and also my share of hannyug. Hope that my wierd repealed beschränkug
lg xxxkoenigxxx

Hallo an alle ich habe alles für tony bezahlt und auch meinen Anteil an hannyug. Hoffe das meine beschränkug aufgehoben wierd
lg xxxkoenigxxx

Harp221122
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4 years ago

after reviewing this, there are more than a couple troubling issues stil. First and formost is the fact that numerous IP matches between you, your brother and multiple other accounts exist, all with forms of your name koenig, with your brother having listed xkoneigx as one of his accounts, and you having it as one of yours, along with a third member having it as one of theirs who shares ip’s with you but you have claimed you do not know.

2nd is the statemetn that you were leaving cmu but failed to refund hannyug for shares purchased in your event before you left, only refunding after hannyug posted in this thread that he was still owed from you and your brother at that point.

If this was a simple case of your brother rolled and you paid back, we would lift the restriction. Given the wealth of accounts sharing a form of your name and ip matches, I believe that you know more than you are telling about these accounts and your relationship with them.

For this reason, I believe allowing you to continue on site could very well be a risk to our members.