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lies
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4 months ago

not trying to be a dick here i usually just shut up and don’t uy if i don’t like the markup but this is getting ridiculous,

can’t believe ppl still buy his pieces at 140-150% markup, not bashing on him as a player he’s probably very good at the tournaments hes plays but on other forums like 2+2 ppl would get laughed at for trying to sell at 150% PLUS theres almost always a clause on his events where he plays for 30% of himself but, he keeps 50% if he final tables, we’re all tournament players here we all know the money in tournaments is made at the final table so how don’t know if its possible to even make decent money buying his pieces

again i’m not trying to bash on the guy and i’m sure he’s not the only one who does this it just looks to me like he’s a good player with good results who uses his good results to lure in unexperiened buyers into buying shares at ridiculous rates with ridiculous clauses, so he in a way almost ’’freerolls’’ everything he plays and that just doesn’t seem right to me

i know he’s well respected here and i’m more of a new guy but i’m not trying to ruin his rep or anything just asking to see if other people view it the way i see it.

 
__DAVE__
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4 months ago

Simple way is just not too buy them as alot doo avoid it :(

 
hateraises
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4 months ago

agree 1000000000000%

 
Takezo1980
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4 months ago

I have made at least 2 threads myself already about those FT deals.
But its talking to a def man, People here are just not investors but gamblers I think.
As far as my own pv goes (I dont list much anymore but when I do) Im just going with the market here. When I see people selling out with losing stats etc against 145% im not selling under that obv..

I like it here alot, and im trying to educate a little bit sometimes.
But if they dont wanna listen then they dont.

 
Takezo1980
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4 months ago

Kgoule is a good player btw lol.
Still rather buy him then a cheap rookie :-)

 
QUAKQUACK
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4 months ago

this must b the millionith thread about pv’s ect. i agree its wrong but if u don’t like DON’T BUY

 
choputo
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4 months ago

Yes ft deal % are bs so i tend to avoid these when buying into events.
Not that it really bothers me tbh, but you sort of are bashing him as soon as you put his name in this thread imo. Like the others have said his not the only one doing it.



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lies
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4 months ago

singling him out yes, bashing him ? not sure, and don’t think i’Ve seen someone charge such high markups for every event they put up as long as this guys been doing it

 
kgoule
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4 months ago

this is very smart from you
Just my point CMU is a webstie based on offering and demand if you dot like my da
Thanks anyway for this special thread sorry to be the big stealer of this website

 
kgoule
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4 months ago

miscklick ( playing)

this is very smart from you
Just my point CMU is a webstie based on offering and demand if you dot like my deals just dont buy
Thanks anyway for this special thread sorry to be the big stealer of this website
Kevin

 
kgoule
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4 months ago

Last thing to be clear and cause i see this scumbag Hateraises is coming to agree to 1000 000% ( oh no more than that ol)

AT least im profitable HERE with my stats

Look at your bro instead bashing me too
i never used to speak to you since you insulted my like this in the chat but seriously , you always tell that your profitable here but thats wrong
Your 5k profit here are just because you listed those 2 events
http://www.chipmeup.com/event/101732/hateraises...

http://www.chipmeup.com/event/107920/hateraises...

Events where only 1% soldout once ITM lol , very generous from your part ? or just a fake ???

So, at least , keep ignorating me guess thats better for all here ,

 
hateraises
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4 months ago

scum bag… how nice of you

 
rumNrasin
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4 months ago

Same ol discussion.

It’s clear that you buy a share it’s beause you believe the player is good enough to make a ft! When a player takes extra 20% of the FT equity (30 -50% in this csase) for every FT they are simply raping the investor. They should never sell a share imo but there is one fact here….. if a player sells out offering this terrible deal I say MAJOR PROPS to you!!!

Don’t hate Kevin for doing this as I think it’s brilliant if you can get away with it. Bash the muppet investors who buys the shares. I know I have bought Kevins shares in the past but since he started doing this FT thing I laugh and close screen.

I don’t get the anger thing with players events. Just walk on by, or if you realy want to invest PM the player and ask for a better desal!

 
rumNrasin
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4 months ago

Thing to remember is normally a FT has, depending on the size of the event, on average over 50% of the money distibuted in the event, and that is in massive events. Smaller events between 60-70% is the norm. To buy a share when you are losing 20% equity when thats the only time you have a chance of scoring a +ROI is plain dumb. Remember the player clearly doesnt care about the investor as they will let you keep you 70% of nothing but as soon as it’s going to be a decent return (IE Final Table) they take a further 20% from you.

 
lies
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4 months ago

Not quite sure what the bickering between hate and kgoule is about, whatever…

I’m just wondering why you wouldn’t reconsider your markups and stipluations a it seems most people on the site have figured that that it’s close to -ev to buy those shares, looking at your recent events it seems to me you have trouble selling even a quarter of the pieces you’re putting up, you’re obviously a good player and its frustrating to see you putting up events with such ridiculous stipulations as i’D love to buy pieces of you if they were more reasonable and i’m pretty sure most of the people in this thread feel the same way.

Yesterday i was speaking with some players in the chat and i think it’s aquaraider who said that you had quit the site a couple of times because you were frustrated because you had trouble selling out events, i mean what are you not getting? put up events with no FT deals & markups not higher than 130% and you’ll probably sell everyone of those out, again i understand the concept of ‘’if you don’t like it just dont buy’’ but for some reason it just tilts the hell outta me when i see you put up an event with some nice juicy tournaments then look closer and see 150% pv, 50% for me if i make FT and some people dumb enough to buy

Not quite sure where you’re getting the ‘’big stealer of the website’’ part, i never called you that, no one is calling you a cheater you’re good at taking advantage of inexperienced buyers that’s all

 
kgoule
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4 months ago

Session is nearly ended of my side
I dont think to take advantage like you say of inexperienced buyers ( t hats not my goal of course)
All my listed events are not with TF DEALS i could say that 90%of my listed ones are without this kind of deal
I ONLY POST THOSE DEALS ,check please, FOR ( WCOOP TCOOP OR EGAL REAY HUGE FIELD OR TURBOS EVENT WHEN FUSTACKED cause im >75% ROI on it
I add THAT I SPECIFY that only a TF with for ex >10X combo valor is deal with 50/50
Other ones are without FINAL TABLES DEALS and my regular schedule that i sell with HIGH PV yes but because he is EV+ ( same if those last monthes i took variance in the head )
Nte for Lies too :
Did you PM me like precedent buyers made to ask my specifics deals or rebates ? You had the possibiity to do it i guess
I feel bad but mostly because my english is bad and cant explain me like i would be able in french
You know , for me thats a little bit easy like if you had 2 supermarkets near your house
One is too expensive for you , Do you really come in this market with a panel " Dont buy here ?"
I def guess not …
Would like to add a last thing too like i did inthe past to eplain me
Ok i always sold with high PV I AD MIT IT 100% but i guess and you can see it with the tons on shares i bought that i used to help LOTS of people here buying their shares and so , helping a lot the communauty to build their own roll and investing back lots of my winnings here just to make the website and communauty living , i guess lots of cmuers remember that too but you were not on this site at this moment ( and unfortunately this past year didnt had this possibility cause lots of disagrements in my life , outside poker, like heart attack from my father , broke a relationship etc)
Hope the futur be better and show you im not the asshole you maybe th ink i am

 
Luckbox1608
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3 months ago

havent been active here recently (and prolly won’t be in the near future), just my 2c really brief:

i bought a lot of kg events, pretty much of all them thru good and bad times – up to a point where i felt the PV is too high for me or in other words: i could allocate my $ to more interesting tourneys. my view is that kev is not doing anything wrong at all, but it really is up to every investor to make a call (like i did for myself)

also i can confirm how he supported many players on this site with not that great stats. that is appreciated a lot by me and others as well afaik. what i can also say that he is certainly not a scammer, we had some arrangements in place and sometimes it got messy or slow, but he was always reliable in paying






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